{"id":7015,"date":"2023-04-18T11:27:29","date_gmt":"2023-04-18T10:27:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/?p=7015"},"modified":"2023-04-19T14:14:08","modified_gmt":"2023-04-19T13:14:08","slug":"how-to-sue-uk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/uncategorised\/how-to-sue-uk\/","title":{"rendered":"How to SUE (UK)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">This is just an intro, and is mainly for the &#8220;people break their agreements re content problem&#8221;, fights about modest (hundreds to low k) money and other fairly simple disputes. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I am NOT a lawyer. I&#8217;ve just been around a while.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The most common complaints are :-<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Failed to provide the footage<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Used the content in a way that was specifically prohibited in the agreement &#8211; usually, sharing it in a way that it wasn&#8217;t supposed to be shared.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Is it<\/strong> <strong>Revenge Porn? :<\/strong> To be Revenge Porn not only must the sharing be without consent, but there must be an intent to embarrass or distress. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">If you are a porn performer, it&#8217;s a high bar to pass for content similar in nature to stuff that you make and sell, if the sharing wasn&#8217;t done in a way designed to cause you strife. Sending to your family, employer, neighbours etc, yes, I, as a non lawyer, think that would clear the intent hurdle. But simply uploading to a Tube site, probably not. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">So, usually, not revenge porn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Usually, a simple breach of contract.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The remedy for this is usually to sue for a sensible amount of money.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>CAN THEY PAY IF YOU WIN? <\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">This process is about getting money from the other side. If they don&#8217;t have any then even if you win, you might not get any, though you could make life messy for them. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Anyway, have a think, because if it&#8217;s just business, and you know they are basically broke, sometimes the easiest thing is to walk away and just learn whatever lessons you can, rather than invest time and effort that might be better spent on business chasing some modest sum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Good news &#8211; no lawyers needed for simple money claims.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">To be honest, I find that simply making it clear to the other party that you will sue, and know how to sue, and are pissed off enough to do so, gets things sorted without actually having to sue \ud83d\ude42 In fact, I have never actually had to sue anyone. When people understand that I am serious, know how to do it, and they will lose, they just fold, because that is the route of least aggro for them, (otherwise I get to force them to waste their time dealing with a case that they know will end up with them paying me anyway, plus my court costs).  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The key to successful suing, is to ask for a sensible amount of money. This should reflect your actual costs and actual losses, or numbers that will sound sensible to a judge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>IMPORTANT : This isn&#8217;t the USA and we&#8217;re not in Suits.<\/strong> In the UK, on a money claim, if you go high, and the courts think you are taking the piss &#8211; because you can&#8217;t back up your high numbers &#8211; they might bin you off even if you are in the right. They would almost certainly cut you right back to whatever number the other side put in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I want \u00a310,000 because I&#8217;d have made that from my Only Fans if they hadn&#8217;t put it on Tube for free&#8221;, won&#8217;t fly UNLESS you can show that you typically make \u00a310,000 from OF for that type of scene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A claim might comprise  :-<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a3200 location booking fee (if you paid for the location)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a380 travel <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a320 for coffee and lunch on the way<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a3120 hotel if used before or after<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a3500 as the fee I would have charged a professional production company if they booked me for a similar scene. This represents my loss of profits. (Use a bigger number if you can back it with evidence).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a335+ court filing costs (judges option re approving)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Other stuff might get added by the judge. A friend who was being contested, the other side weren&#8217;t ready so the judge not only found in his favour but also, because he was pissed off at the other side,  &#8220;and you&#8217;ve taken a day off work to come here? \u00a3150. And \u00a350 for your petrol, and, it&#8217;s coming up lunchtime, \u00a350 for a nice lunch before you go&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Proof and Evidence<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Are useful, but not essential. Courts are used to missing paperwork and it&#8217;s not an issue for &#8220;normal&#8221; type costs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Travel and such  will be an estimate based on mileage. If  you lost the hotel paperwork, not really a problem if you are claiming for a Travelodge BnB, but if you claim &#8220;The Ritz&#8221; then  you need proof (and even then, that might get reduced because you NEEDED a Travelodge, the extra was just you treating yourself).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Process<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Step 1:<\/strong> read up on<a href=\"https:\/\/www.which.co.uk\/consumer-rights\/advice\/how-to-use-the-small-claims-court\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.which.co.uk\/consumer-rights\/advice\/how-to-use-the-small-claims-court\"> Money Claims. <\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/make-court-claim-for-money\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/make-court-claim-for-money\">Gov site<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Step 2:<\/strong> write to the person showing that you have read up on Money Claims and detailing what will happen if they don&#8217;t sort themselves out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">If &#8220;not provided footage&#8221; you basically say &#8220;send the footage, or I&#8217;ll sue. The way the suing works is as follows&#8230;.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">If &#8220;shared in breach&#8221;, same sort of process but money is the only remedy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Step 3:<\/strong> court takes over. If the other party ignores it, and your numbers are sensible, you&#8217;ll probably get fully in your favour. If the other side does get involved &#8211; e.g. &#8220;well, yes, I did upload it to a Tube, but she probably only lost X&#8221; &#8211; , courts look at everything and decide what they decide, but on the basis that you are in the right, and asking for sensible numbers, you should get  all\/most of your claim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Keep it Business<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I was told to avoid asking for distress or upset in Small Claims. It&#8217;s hard to quantify. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">If your case is one where you want to  bring that in, you need to see a lawyer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Injunctions<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">You need these where money is not a solution, and you need to force the other person to do something  or not do something . That probably means your case is complicated. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I have never done an injunction, never even needed to threaten one, so see a lawyer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Penalty Clauses <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;If you release it, \u00a35000&#8221;, basically are not enforceable. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">There are &#8220;Liquidated Damages&#8221; clauses, but these are really pre-agreed amounts for non performance also grounded in reality, and only really exist in lawyer drafted contacts and T&amp;Cs.<\/p>\n    <!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/uncategorised\/how-to-sue-uk\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 7015, \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"Home\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/badbutlerxxx.com\\\/badbutler\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=4652&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"How to SUE (UK)\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is just an intro, and is mainly for the &#8220;people break their agreements re content problem&#8221;, fights about modest (hundreds to low k) money and other fairly simple disputes. 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