{"id":5666,"date":"2021-11-06T17:16:38","date_gmt":"2021-11-06T17:16:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/?p=5666"},"modified":"2022-12-09T09:13:35","modified_gmt":"2022-12-09T09:13:35","slug":"collabs-when-and-how-to-do-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/uncategorised\/collabs-when-and-how-to-do-them\/","title":{"rendered":"Collabs, when and how to do them"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Collabs aka Shared Content, are a great way to get material to feed the platforms and your web site. I first started highlighting this as a way for performers to get content that they owned  back in around 2008.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; No POV or Tripod filming  (ok, more of a guideline)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If you are new to the industry, save yourself aggro by simply saying no to guys wanting to collab this type of content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Most guys have no idea how to shoot good POV\/Tripod scenes. If considering a  guy for this, you absolutely need  to see what they have done before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Most women only need a  very limited amount of this type of content, if  any at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">See filming notes below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Suggestion &#8211; Fellow PERFORMERS only. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">I firmly believe that non performing photographers and video people should pay to shoot, if they are getting content. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Only exceptionally skilled photographers\/video people bring enough for their skills to add value that they get content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">So, if possible, 3-5 performers, and whoever isn&#8217;t performing, shoots. So long as everyone knows  who is new, and who is experienced, that&#8217;s fine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; ONLY collab to make content YOU want to make.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If people want collabs but they don&#8217;t bring what you need, don&#8217;t collab.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If you are a woman whose porn is all about you and Bad Boys aged 18-40, you should certainly NOT do a collab with me. I do not fit your work. Same goes for anyone else who asks for collabs &#8211; if they don&#8217;t have what you need, it&#8217;s a no. Anyone who pushes, frankly, isn&#8217;t being professional. An occasional &#8220;hi, I&#8217;m still here if you need me&#8221; is fine, that&#8217;s just business networking, but people trying to change your mind, out of order.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pauljonesAIR\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pauljonesAIR\">ALWAYS collab with PaulJonesAIR!<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Only joking. ONLY collab with me, if you want content with me, (see above Rule). But if you like my look, I always say yes and can film all day when not performing. I bring lights and cameras. New people very welcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; She who knows what scenes she wants, gets the scenes she wants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">People will often go to a collab with a &#8220;whatever you want&#8221; attitude. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Which is great, tell them what you want, get the scene YOU want \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Example &#8211; I want Bad Butler scenes. So I will always suggest Bad Butler. But, even more, I want a scene with YOU, so if you say &#8220;No, I need a hidden camera fucking my sugardaddy to blackmail him later scene&#8221;, that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ll do. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>When?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If you want to set a date for your planning before you ask other people, esp if you plan to open it up people you don&#8217;t know, or part time performers, weekends are best. This goes double if you will be spending money on a location.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Weekday shoots are hard for people not full time in the  industry. Esp males (if you want a few of them&#8230;), most of whom have day jobs. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Porn stars with loads of followers DO want to collab with you<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Well, if you are a new female performer, if you want to collab with anyone in the industry, really, just ask. &#8220;I fuck the new girl&#8221; is content that most porn people &#8211; male and female &#8211; love to make \ud83d\ude42 So, DM them. They might say yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">New guys &#8211; not so so much. You shouldn&#8217;t even be requesting collabs until you have a decent amount of content showing you with a range of girls. And if you do reach out to performers, ONLY do so for the ones who follow you. They&#8217;re presumably following you for a reason. It might be that they are open to a collab. BUT check that you want to be in their stuff. If she&#8217;s a domme mainly slapping, beating and pegging sub guys, you can probably be the guy, (esp if you are willing to pay to be a film sub). But don&#8217;t expect the &#8220;you shag her&#8221; scene to be on the cards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; 3-5 people is fun and efficient, more, is often too many<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">A collab day is a work day, so everyone wants to get the most out of it. A good day can give everyone several weeks content.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">I find that an hour per scene is a good figure, and it can take longer. 30 mins filming, but makeup, prep and general fannying around means it&#8217;s very hard to shoot faster. Examples<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>2 girls and a guy<\/strong> : Each girl gets a BG scene and they do say 2 GG ones. That&#8217;s a non rushed afternoon that gives each girl THREE scenes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>2 girls A&amp;B and 3 guys C&amp;D&amp;E<\/strong> : So, AC, AD, AE, BC, BD, BE AB  scene 1, AB scene 2. That&#8217;s a FULL day. And each girl gets FIVE scenes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">So, once you get lots of people &#8211; 6+, unless the aim is to shoot a lot of threesomes\/group sex, or multiple scenes can be filmed at the same time, too many people will be sitting around doing nothing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; Make your own rules, and WRITE THEM DOWN!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">This comes to how content is used.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">My default is &#8220;people get what they are IN, but NOT what they film&#8221;, and once people have it, they can do what they  like with it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">But say it&#8217;s agreed that you a two month head start on the guy, fine, but put it on the release.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If you don&#8217;t want it on Tubes, put that  in the release.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; Do the Paperwork<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Even with friends and partners. Because you might need to prove permission (esp on platforms). And sometimes people stop being friends, or partners.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Rule &#8211; GET THE FOOTAGE ON THE DAY<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">&#8220;I did content with these people but haven&#8217;t got my content yet&#8221; is a far too common complaint.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If you get the footage on the day, you have the footage and if edits don&#8217;t arrive, you have the footage and edit yourself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Take portable hard drives to grab the footage with. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Have a stamped self addressed padded envelope so if time is short at the end of the day they can at least send it to you pretty fast afterwards. (Seriously, 4-5 people each needing over 100GB each of files can take bloody HOURS to send to hard drives, and there are trains to catch&#8230;).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Filming Notes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">I like Proper Filming &#8211; where some people fuck while someone else films it, moving around to get the best shot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">IMO it&#8217;s very hard to shoot good tripod based porn unless multiple cameras and excellent camera awareness by the male, and most POV is rubbish because of camera movement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">If I was a woman and guys wanted Tripod or POV based collabs, I&#8217;d probably say no. Unless YOU really want them, and you know why. For example they can play well for escorts AW content &#8211; &#8220;Me and a client&#8221; video. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Anyway, IMO, if guys want to collab, and you want them, get them in when someone else is also there to shoot properly.<\/p>\n    <!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/badbutlerxxx.com\/badbutler\/uncategorised\/collabs-when-and-how-to-do-them\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 5666, \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"Home\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/badbutlerxxx.com\\\/badbutler\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=4652&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"Collabs, when and how to do them\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Collabs aka Shared Content, are a great way to get material to feed the platforms and your web site. 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